charlituna
Apr 12, 03:03 PM
I believe this b/c Darlymple and Gruber belies this.
Trouble with all these statements is that they are forgetting that Apple can return WWDC to the software guys
AND then do a media event as soon as the day after and still release in June/July.
The lack of new component shipments could be simply due to the fact that Apple is using components that also appear in existing products and Apple doesn't spell out what the components are being used for when they order them. So what someone might think is just more chips to fill the ipad 2 demand could be only part that and part for a new phone (for example)
Trouble with all these statements is that they are forgetting that Apple can return WWDC to the software guys
AND then do a media event as soon as the day after and still release in June/July.
The lack of new component shipments could be simply due to the fact that Apple is using components that also appear in existing products and Apple doesn't spell out what the components are being used for when they order them. So what someone might think is just more chips to fill the ipad 2 demand could be only part that and part for a new phone (for example)
Blue Fox
Apr 22, 09:38 PM
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It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
It's WiMax.. iPhone is going to be LTE. Apple is obsessed with thin design. Using two separate chip for 3G and 4G will make things too tight. I'm guessing they want the hybrid chip..
Using two separate chips eats battery life. Not to mention LTE is still "just" coming out, so it won't be widespread enough to take advantage of it until 2012 anyway.
*LTD*
Apr 13, 07:47 PM
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It doesn't really matter at this point. Black or white, it's the iPhone. It'll still sell out.
yah the white iPhone looks fresh as hell!
I'll admit it does look pretty sweet. The metal and white. It seems to work from what I can tell from the pics.
It doesn't really matter at this point. Black or white, it's the iPhone. It'll still sell out.
yah the white iPhone looks fresh as hell!
I'll admit it does look pretty sweet. The metal and white. It seems to work from what I can tell from the pics.
AaronEdwards
Apr 28, 01:36 PM
Not surprising...because it sells for $49?
If I were in the market for a smartphone and could choose a $49 iPhone 3GS vs. a $199+ iPhone 4 vs. a $199+ Android...I would very very seriously consider the 3GS since it is AT LEAST 4x cheaper...and in reality, does 99% of the iPhone 4 (I have the 3GS and as far as I can tell the 4 simply added Facetime and a front camera for facetime use).
That's pretty faulty math there. In reality, it's not 4x cheaper.
Pick AT&T:s cheapest plan, and you would pay $1369 for the 3GS and plan, for a 4 you would pay $1520 for the phone and plan. So you pay 90% of the cost of a 4 with plan and you'll only get an 3GS, a phone that's already passed by the 4, and will shortly be passed by 4S or 5.
I can't understand anyone who would consider buying a 3GS instead of a 4.
If you're unable to pay another $150 to get a 4, then you probably should wait until 5 or 4S arrives, or just start saving money.
If I were in the market for a smartphone and could choose a $49 iPhone 3GS vs. a $199+ iPhone 4 vs. a $199+ Android...I would very very seriously consider the 3GS since it is AT LEAST 4x cheaper...and in reality, does 99% of the iPhone 4 (I have the 3GS and as far as I can tell the 4 simply added Facetime and a front camera for facetime use).
That's pretty faulty math there. In reality, it's not 4x cheaper.
Pick AT&T:s cheapest plan, and you would pay $1369 for the 3GS and plan, for a 4 you would pay $1520 for the phone and plan. So you pay 90% of the cost of a 4 with plan and you'll only get an 3GS, a phone that's already passed by the 4, and will shortly be passed by 4S or 5.
I can't understand anyone who would consider buying a 3GS instead of a 4.
If you're unable to pay another $150 to get a 4, then you probably should wait until 5 or 4S arrives, or just start saving money.
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kingtj
Oct 24, 09:08 AM
Yep, my thoughts too. (And again, you have to wonder why over 20 people already voted this story negative.....)
But I like my Macbook Pro 15" that I got a month or so after it came out. I still use all the time and it works for me. I didn't really see the big deal about the "lacking features" back then, and I still don't think they're a big deal now.
1. FW800? Yeah, nice to have ... but honestly, the only time I plugged anything into my MBPro's FW port, it was just a cable bridged between it and my desktop to xfer over a bunch of data one time. (My portable hard drive is USB 2.0 since I also use a Windows PC that has no firewire port on it.)
2. Dual-layer burner? Are people honestly doing much DL disc burning? I don't, because the media still costs WAY too much! I bought a total of one 15-pack of DL media once, and that was just to make backup copies of a few specific DVDs like iLife '06 that couldn't fit on a single layer DVD-R. Then, I found out that the DL discs I did make are very picky about which drives they'll read in afterwards. Plus, even the *slightest* blemish on one before you burn to it results in a disc with errors. DL media is hyper-sensitive to scratches.
3. I upgraded my MBPro to 2GB as soon as I got it. Works for me, and as more apps become universal, the need for more RAM is reduced. The real "RAM hog" is Rosetta.
IMHO--A solid upgrade. Same price point but more memory, more video ram, fw 800, dual layer burner.
I'm jealous! I have a the original Macbook Pro. But my laptop was just fine yesterday so I won't be upgrading til the next major upgrade.
But I like my Macbook Pro 15" that I got a month or so after it came out. I still use all the time and it works for me. I didn't really see the big deal about the "lacking features" back then, and I still don't think they're a big deal now.
1. FW800? Yeah, nice to have ... but honestly, the only time I plugged anything into my MBPro's FW port, it was just a cable bridged between it and my desktop to xfer over a bunch of data one time. (My portable hard drive is USB 2.0 since I also use a Windows PC that has no firewire port on it.)
2. Dual-layer burner? Are people honestly doing much DL disc burning? I don't, because the media still costs WAY too much! I bought a total of one 15-pack of DL media once, and that was just to make backup copies of a few specific DVDs like iLife '06 that couldn't fit on a single layer DVD-R. Then, I found out that the DL discs I did make are very picky about which drives they'll read in afterwards. Plus, even the *slightest* blemish on one before you burn to it results in a disc with errors. DL media is hyper-sensitive to scratches.
3. I upgraded my MBPro to 2GB as soon as I got it. Works for me, and as more apps become universal, the need for more RAM is reduced. The real "RAM hog" is Rosetta.
IMHO--A solid upgrade. Same price point but more memory, more video ram, fw 800, dual layer burner.
I'm jealous! I have a the original Macbook Pro. But my laptop was just fine yesterday so I won't be upgrading til the next major upgrade.
Daveoc64
Apr 24, 07:58 PM
I just seen a T-Mobile commercial where they threw an iPhone 4. :(
Sounds a bit different to the sort of ads T-Mobile has in the UK:
http://youtu.be/Kav0FEhtLug
Sounds a bit different to the sort of ads T-Mobile has in the UK:
http://youtu.be/Kav0FEhtLug
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jeeb75
Nov 5, 10:58 AM
Has anybody been able to install Vista in vmware fusion. I installed it but I had trouble installing the vmware installation tools.
Badandy
Jan 29, 01:40 AM
Based on the verdict of the markets it would seem that Apple's potential is not so great...but you know better than that right ;)
When stocks are being discussed from now on, please remove yourself from the proceedings.
It was mostly the decline in iPod growth rate, but as someone said here, the market is just becoming saturated. You can thank Apple's insistence on using non user-replaceable batteries and such for sustaining some product momentum at least. You'll always have a good 10% (or so) of the market or so that replaces things ONLY when what they have ceases to work. This is where what I noted above begins to actually positively impact sales figures.
I'm just getting this weird feeling that the baseline will be about 100. I expect a mild resurgence in the next couple weeks, nowhere near 200 or anything, but at least a 10% jump. Then I look for it to tumble down, where I will hopefully pick up some more at around 100. Of course, no one should take my complete speculation as actual advice, this is just the gut feeling I'm getting from the stock right now.
When stocks are being discussed from now on, please remove yourself from the proceedings.
It was mostly the decline in iPod growth rate, but as someone said here, the market is just becoming saturated. You can thank Apple's insistence on using non user-replaceable batteries and such for sustaining some product momentum at least. You'll always have a good 10% (or so) of the market or so that replaces things ONLY when what they have ceases to work. This is where what I noted above begins to actually positively impact sales figures.
I'm just getting this weird feeling that the baseline will be about 100. I expect a mild resurgence in the next couple weeks, nowhere near 200 or anything, but at least a 10% jump. Then I look for it to tumble down, where I will hopefully pick up some more at around 100. Of course, no one should take my complete speculation as actual advice, this is just the gut feeling I'm getting from the stock right now.
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Hisdem
Apr 9, 01:03 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/5602889077_c04c22a79b_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxumphoto/5602889077/)
Yellow Beast (http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxumphoto/5602889077/) by Hisdem (http://www.flickr.com/people/maxumphoto/), on Flickr
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Eriden
Mar 15, 01:06 AM
I'll be heading to Spectrum myself. I've got to pick one up for my wife. She thought she'd be happy with my first gen iPad until she started playing around with my white Verizon 32GB.
Fortunately, for some reason, Spectrum sounds like was much less of a mess than Brea. 2/3 of the people in line on launch day were disappointed.
Fortunately, for some reason, Spectrum sounds like was much less of a mess than Brea. 2/3 of the people in line on launch day were disappointed.
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whatever
Oct 23, 11:23 AM
Watch, it probably really means it instantly voids the MS support part of the Vista purchase for that license.
Would be just peachy that Apple offers zero support for running Vista on a Mac, and MS does the same for those doing it via virtualization.
Probably forsee a support headache coming down the path. :p
Why should Apple offer support for Vista on a Mac.
Anyone who is willing to run Vista on a Mac are ussually technical and smart enought to search different support forums for the answers that they need.
Would be just peachy that Apple offers zero support for running Vista on a Mac, and MS does the same for those doing it via virtualization.
Probably forsee a support headache coming down the path. :p
Why should Apple offer support for Vista on a Mac.
Anyone who is willing to run Vista on a Mac are ussually technical and smart enought to search different support forums for the answers that they need.
tny
Oct 24, 08:04 AM
Slightly off-topic: does anyone have an opinion on getting software (in this case logic express) preinstalled? Is there any benefit or would it be better to just buy the app seperately?
The only benefit it gets you is the time savings of not having to install it yourself - and of being able to jump right in and use it when you get the machine.
The only benefit it gets you is the time savings of not having to install it yourself - and of being able to jump right in and use it when you get the machine.
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Snowy_River
Jul 12, 05:39 PM
Snowy-
Any professional copy shop should be able to take your sequential, 5.5" x 8.5" size pages and turn it into a booklet with binding in the middle. My understanding is that they have super-expensive machines that can do that without much effort.
I don't think you need to futz around with a non-sequential layout unless you plan to print this out yourself without the use of fancy $40,000+ copiers.
You know, that's a good idea.
Here I was so caught up in the idea of getting it to be a final version, I didn't even think of that. Let the machines that are designed to do this do the work....
(I'm not even going to dignify the other snide poster with a response :rolleyes: )
Any professional copy shop should be able to take your sequential, 5.5" x 8.5" size pages and turn it into a booklet with binding in the middle. My understanding is that they have super-expensive machines that can do that without much effort.
I don't think you need to futz around with a non-sequential layout unless you plan to print this out yourself without the use of fancy $40,000+ copiers.
You know, that's a good idea.
Here I was so caught up in the idea of getting it to be a final version, I didn't even think of that. Let the machines that are designed to do this do the work....
(I'm not even going to dignify the other snide poster with a response :rolleyes: )
Macnoviz
Jul 27, 04:22 PM
I like your idea and I think it would work in many situations if there is indeed going to be a "transition phase" toward a new type of connection format. However, I'll stick by my prediction as it offers the maximum benefit for Apple and its third party partners while keeping the whole user interaction simpler and more elegant. The Nike situation is different in the respect that it is really the only way to make a product like that work�can't have a bunch of wires getting in the way of running. I know the iPod Hi-Fi probably isn't selling well enough for Apple to worry that a new connection format would hurt their own profit margin much, but there are a LOT of third party partners out there that have only recently given it their best because Apple has probably assured them that the dock connector will be around for quite some time, so third party R&D won't be a black hole or recurring expense in that area. It is what has helped the accessory market evolve to the point it has, which has benefitted Apple immensly-don't think Apple doesn't realize that fact! It is also what is missing from the also-ran MP3 manufacturers: not enough consistency to make it worth their investment to produce for those products.
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Of course, it COULD have both....
how about
a 30 $ optional wireless receiver that acts as a female dock connector to plug into the existing iPod docks?
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Of course, it COULD have both....
how about
a 30 $ optional wireless receiver that acts as a female dock connector to plug into the existing iPod docks?
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macfly4
Apr 15, 08:54 AM
Forgot to mention mine is a 3gs also. This battery drain is worse than it was on the first 4.3 update. What is going on with this?
Blorzoga
May 4, 05:21 AM
pfft, this should not be front page news, hell not even second page... just a bunch of hearsay from a CR that knows nothing about it and speculates BS.
Yeah, customer service reps are always soooo reliable.
Yeah, customer service reps are always soooo reliable.
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brotato
Apr 28, 10:31 PM
Using my digital calipers the white is .01" thicker, I am using the same case from my black iPhone and it seems to fit just fine. Didn't notice any difference till I heard about it.
http://i.imgur.com/mkWbD.jpg
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http://i.imgur.com/OeHUV.jpg
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caspersoong
Apr 29, 03:26 AM
This is what happens with Steve on leave. Perfectionalism is getting reduced.
damson34
Apr 16, 12:11 AM
OS X is Unix, it is not Unix-like much like Linux.
It is the real deal, Unix '03 certified and all. The BSD userland qualifies as genuine Unix and the kernel provides the entire required POSIX syscall interfaces to pass the certification tests :
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3581.htm
So yes, in a sense, OS X is built on top of Unix, NeXT's implementation of it which happens to use a Berkeley userland and a Carnegie made Mach kernel.
I'm pretty sure they probably got certified to call it Unix because even non tech people have at least heard the name Unix instead of Mach/BSD.
It is the real deal, Unix '03 certified and all. The BSD userland qualifies as genuine Unix and the kernel provides the entire required POSIX syscall interfaces to pass the certification tests :
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/brand3581.htm
So yes, in a sense, OS X is built on top of Unix, NeXT's implementation of it which happens to use a Berkeley userland and a Carnegie made Mach kernel.
I'm pretty sure they probably got certified to call it Unix because even non tech people have at least heard the name Unix instead of Mach/BSD.
Cheerwino
Apr 14, 08:06 AM
Guys, I didn't want to start a new thread, but...
Should I buy the ix.Mac.MarketingName now? I've heard the ix.Mac.MarketingName 2 is going to be much more betterer. Should I buy now or wait? I was waiting for the price to come down, but it hasn't changed in the entire 5 minutes I've known about this product...
Sent by ix.Man.NotVerySerious
If it has retina and Thunderbolt, I'm getting first gen. You can always sell it on Craigslist the day before Gen 2 comes out for twice what you paid for it.
Should I buy the ix.Mac.MarketingName now? I've heard the ix.Mac.MarketingName 2 is going to be much more betterer. Should I buy now or wait? I was waiting for the price to come down, but it hasn't changed in the entire 5 minutes I've known about this product...
Sent by ix.Man.NotVerySerious
If it has retina and Thunderbolt, I'm getting first gen. You can always sell it on Craigslist the day before Gen 2 comes out for twice what you paid for it.
URFloorMatt
Apr 22, 12:43 PM
Then you have never streamed video onto your phone from home or Netflix or Slingbox. It's not pleasant over 3G onto the iPhone - looks and responds even worse on the iPad.
We need 4G NOW!
TonyAgreed. Anyone who tried to watch MMOD knows that 3G for streaming video is worthless, particularly for high motion. The quality is too poor to see anything.
The only thing I don't like about these iPhone 5 rumors is that they're proving everyone who said the iPhone 5 would be a half-step upgrade right. No NFC, no LTE, no larger screen size, nothing. Better chip, slightly better camera, maybe higher storage, and that's it on the hardware front, apparently. World phone capability is hardly anything to get excited about.
I would seriously consider hanging onto my 3GS until next year if I thought it would survive another year, so I wouldn't get locked into a two-year contract on the iPhone 4.5 when the iPhone 2012 will have all the features I've been waiting for.
We need 4G NOW!
TonyAgreed. Anyone who tried to watch MMOD knows that 3G for streaming video is worthless, particularly for high motion. The quality is too poor to see anything.
The only thing I don't like about these iPhone 5 rumors is that they're proving everyone who said the iPhone 5 would be a half-step upgrade right. No NFC, no LTE, no larger screen size, nothing. Better chip, slightly better camera, maybe higher storage, and that's it on the hardware front, apparently. World phone capability is hardly anything to get excited about.
I would seriously consider hanging onto my 3GS until next year if I thought it would survive another year, so I wouldn't get locked into a two-year contract on the iPhone 4.5 when the iPhone 2012 will have all the features I've been waiting for.
Tonezorz
May 4, 09:28 PM
So now this is an email you received? An AT&T rep actually put it in writing? Is this what you're now saying?
Where this got "off track" or rather on the track it should've been on in the first place is that clearly if your upgrade was pushed back it was from any number of things people have posted about for years now on the matter: bill payment, length of being a customer, level of account, etc... Really, this comes up every year.
Your story is making less and less sense, and here's where actually thinking first comes in handy:
If a customer service rep told you that the iPhone had been delayed then either this was public knowledge, thus why forward the email to MacRumors, or this wasn't public knowledge, thus why would a first contact customer rep even know this let alone say anything about it?
Sorry if it seems like I, and others, are jumping on you, but your story is BS, and you either know it, or should know it. Take a look at the coverage it's gotten. It's on most of the Apple coverage sites including some read by investors and analysts.
Do we really need news being polluted with this? If you're an honest person, you should now, confronted with logic, common sense, and the actual truth, contact those who picked up your story.
Clearly your upgrade wasn't delayed because of the iPhone being released later, and you know it.
Now we're getting somewhere. I hadn't realized nor did I ever intend this situation to be construed as "They moved my upgrade date due to the iPhone delay."
I'll paste below, while removing the names involved, the original email correspondence between myself and the AT&T representative. This is an original email reply to a support form submission on the AT&T site.
Original Message Follows:
------------------------
Contact and Verification Information
Topic/Subtopic
Topic: I have a question about my contract
Subtopic: Contract expiration
Q2:Enter your contract expiration question below:
A2:I'm curious as to why my upgrade date used to be 6/18 of this year, when now it's moved to 11/19? I've ugpraded three years in a row now when the new iPhone has been released. This year, assuming they launch around the same timeframe (June/July) I won't be able to? Some clarification would be great.
Thanks!
And the response:
Dear Mr. *****,
Thank you for taking the time to e-mail AT&T to advise that your upgrade date was 6/18/11, but now when you check, you see that it has been moved to 11/19/11 and want to know why this has occurred. I apologize for the frustration this has caused. My name is *****, and I am happy to help you with your inquiry.
Unfortunately, we are not given a reason when the upgrade date changes on a line. Equipment discounts are made available from time to time based on a number of factors: service tenure, spending levels, payment history, usage practices and time frame since last equipment discount. Generally, a line is eligible to upgrade every 17 to 21 months, but frequently offers are made to the primary line on an account to do this earlier based on the factors above. The upgrade offer is also based on a three-month average of the billed rate plan and data services per line and eligibility is generally re-evaluated every three months or so as well and sometimes the dates do change. I apologize that this affected you and for any frustration and inconvenience it has caused.
Apple has informed us that they do not plan to release the iPhone in the June to July timeframe, though there will be a newer version in the future. Unfortunately, we have not been given a release time for the new phone. We will release this information on our website when it is available to us.
Mr. *****, I am sorry that I could not give you a more definite answer, but hope that the information provided has been helpful. Should you have additional concerns or questions about this issue please reply to this email. If you need to contact us again regarding a new issue please send us another email via the contact link through your online account. Again, my name is *****, and I thank you for being a valued AT&T customer for several years. We appreciate your business and will do our best to ensure that your wireless experience is a success.
I encourage you to visit our web site (www.att.com/wireless) often to view current and previous monthly statements, make payments and to shop for new product and service offerings.
Sincerely,
*****
AT&T
Online Customer Care Professional
Again, all I've left out is my mobile number and our names. The article here on MacRumors is both precise in labeling this as a rumor, and warns against believing the statements of support personell. Also, I don't believe in any way that it suggests an iPhone delay was the cause of my upgrade date change.
Where this got "off track" or rather on the track it should've been on in the first place is that clearly if your upgrade was pushed back it was from any number of things people have posted about for years now on the matter: bill payment, length of being a customer, level of account, etc... Really, this comes up every year.
Your story is making less and less sense, and here's where actually thinking first comes in handy:
If a customer service rep told you that the iPhone had been delayed then either this was public knowledge, thus why forward the email to MacRumors, or this wasn't public knowledge, thus why would a first contact customer rep even know this let alone say anything about it?
Sorry if it seems like I, and others, are jumping on you, but your story is BS, and you either know it, or should know it. Take a look at the coverage it's gotten. It's on most of the Apple coverage sites including some read by investors and analysts.
Do we really need news being polluted with this? If you're an honest person, you should now, confronted with logic, common sense, and the actual truth, contact those who picked up your story.
Clearly your upgrade wasn't delayed because of the iPhone being released later, and you know it.
Now we're getting somewhere. I hadn't realized nor did I ever intend this situation to be construed as "They moved my upgrade date due to the iPhone delay."
I'll paste below, while removing the names involved, the original email correspondence between myself and the AT&T representative. This is an original email reply to a support form submission on the AT&T site.
Original Message Follows:
------------------------
Contact and Verification Information
Topic/Subtopic
Topic: I have a question about my contract
Subtopic: Contract expiration
Q2:Enter your contract expiration question below:
A2:I'm curious as to why my upgrade date used to be 6/18 of this year, when now it's moved to 11/19? I've ugpraded three years in a row now when the new iPhone has been released. This year, assuming they launch around the same timeframe (June/July) I won't be able to? Some clarification would be great.
Thanks!
And the response:
Dear Mr. *****,
Thank you for taking the time to e-mail AT&T to advise that your upgrade date was 6/18/11, but now when you check, you see that it has been moved to 11/19/11 and want to know why this has occurred. I apologize for the frustration this has caused. My name is *****, and I am happy to help you with your inquiry.
Unfortunately, we are not given a reason when the upgrade date changes on a line. Equipment discounts are made available from time to time based on a number of factors: service tenure, spending levels, payment history, usage practices and time frame since last equipment discount. Generally, a line is eligible to upgrade every 17 to 21 months, but frequently offers are made to the primary line on an account to do this earlier based on the factors above. The upgrade offer is also based on a three-month average of the billed rate plan and data services per line and eligibility is generally re-evaluated every three months or so as well and sometimes the dates do change. I apologize that this affected you and for any frustration and inconvenience it has caused.
Apple has informed us that they do not plan to release the iPhone in the June to July timeframe, though there will be a newer version in the future. Unfortunately, we have not been given a release time for the new phone. We will release this information on our website when it is available to us.
Mr. *****, I am sorry that I could not give you a more definite answer, but hope that the information provided has been helpful. Should you have additional concerns or questions about this issue please reply to this email. If you need to contact us again regarding a new issue please send us another email via the contact link through your online account. Again, my name is *****, and I thank you for being a valued AT&T customer for several years. We appreciate your business and will do our best to ensure that your wireless experience is a success.
I encourage you to visit our web site (www.att.com/wireless) often to view current and previous monthly statements, make payments and to shop for new product and service offerings.
Sincerely,
*****
AT&T
Online Customer Care Professional
Again, all I've left out is my mobile number and our names. The article here on MacRumors is both precise in labeling this as a rumor, and warns against believing the statements of support personell. Also, I don't believe in any way that it suggests an iPhone delay was the cause of my upgrade date change.
pit29
Apr 2, 01:23 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2165/1896328691_d5944c4b06.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/pehein/1896328691/)
Tones2
Apr 12, 09:09 AM
OK, stop it already! Enough with the iPhone 5 / iPad 3 release date rumors, or put it on page 2.
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